So other than Dubsado, how do you help growing businesses clean up with systems because i love this kind of stuff and i know that there's more than just automated emails oh

yeah i love tools i am a tool collector and definitely a systems nerd so i love a good project management tool and i love building those so that they match What's in Dubsado.

So if you have more steps to your process on the backend that are not client facing, but then when you finish a certain set of tasks for a project, then it says, go back to Dubsado and mark this task complete.

So we send the next email to the client.

I love building processes in businesses to handle other parts of your business.

And that's actually something I focused on in my own business in the last year is just building those repeatable processes like, okay, every month I do KPI day.

And that also is another tool that I use is Engie for marketing.

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