and did you make a conscious choice to shift uh because i you know i know from my experiences a lot of the polarity work that we met was there a conscious choice for you to shift to working more deeply with the with the trauma work to make a difference with your the women you worked with

Well, it's interesting, actually, I was doing that a lot prior.

So I always started, because I started my journey with learning how to heal trauma, basically in men and women and how to work in it with myself, basically from the age of 15.

So really, really young, I started, I was really, really interested in all of it.

And how, you know, the psyche was involved and so on.

And then I dipped my toes into the polarity world.

And, you know, in that container where we met each other as well, it can work for a lot of people.

Yeah,