Break down those kind of three elements and how what is the perfect situation for that team? What do they need to be doing in each of those areas? Purpose, dynamics, purpose and process, sorry, in order for those things to fully align.

Okay, I love this.

All right, and I actually love working with engineering teams.

Yeah, I've worked with a number of them.

Okay, so first off, I think the team needs to get clarity on what's their purpose.

And there's different layers to understanding purpose.

So first, there's the purpose of the entire organization or company.

When you're working with different organizations, what are the most common blocks that you see in their people or the way that these teams are kind of formed in different ways that are holding them back from really unleashing their creative potential?

Absolutely.

And, you know, I mean, I don't live, I live in a house, I don't live in an apartment complex, but like, I think there's, it's very common that you probably just see people every day and you don't even know their names.

And that just kind of increases that, that distance that we have.

And I just recently had this interesting experience.

I live in Asheville, North Carolina, and A few months ago, Hurricane Helene hit and for 48 hours, nobody in the city had electricity, Wi-Fi, cell service, no way to communicate with anyone.

And what happened is people started going to each other's houses and knocking on the doors.

And I know my neighbors, I don't know all of them, but and yeah, people started coming over.

Yes.