So when did you first try kava? And is kava like, I guess, compared to the US? Like, is it more popular there? Like, how did you find it?

Yeah, so I grew up in Australia.

I have only lived in the US for two years.

I came across Carver in my early kind of teenage years because Fiji, Vanuatu, the islands are quite close to Australia.

It's only about a four hour plane ride and it's a very popular holiday destination.

So I came across Carver then, but in its traditional form, which is In a ceremony situation, it's like very, it looks, they drink it out of a coconut shell, basically is a root that has been ground up.

So it looks like muddy water and it tastes really bitter and earthy, right? So I loved the taste.

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