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Amna Shabir

May 18, 2026

36:19
How do we help ourselves in this situation where-We want to do the very best for people, and yet in this period where we need to be our own supporters, how do we get okay with this idea of I'm here to pursue excellence, but I can't hit it every time? I'm allowed to learn and to pursue it, and I'm allowed to fail on the way, and I'm also allowed to defend what was reasonable care.
36:49
That's a great question, or rather I should say that's an excellent question.
36:53
This conversation is part of that solution.
36:55
Part of that journey is to actually not take on the entire responsibility for the solution and open conversations on larger scale.
37:05
And I'm so grateful to you for having these conversations, not shying away from the tough stuff, and talking about this on your podcast, on your speaking engagements that you do, the amazing work that you do.
37:17
When you talk, you model to other people in the audience that this really horrible thing happened, and it's gonna be okay, and we're gonna learn and grow from it however we can, whatever was intended.
37:30
I really wanna say that because when I take complete responsibility for my perfectionism, I'm not gonna take that responsibility anymore.

6 MINS LATER

43:35
Mm-hmm.

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