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Think of it like a, a barometer, like a, a temperature gauge, and imagine you've got a temperature gauge.

And imagine that the thermostat is set at, so that's your deltaFosB, is set at a level, and that's the level of satisfaction and stimulation.

So dopamine, which is the, which is the driver, dopamine is the hormone, the seeking hormone, okay? And that's the hormone that if you've got a drug addict or a person that, you know, is addicted to screens and whatnot, they're, they're seeking that dopamine hit.

Once that dopamine hit and the dopamine fires up to this thermostat deltaFosB level, that's when you, that's when you get the high, that's when you get the satisfaction.

It's the equivalent of if you go online shopping, you find the thing, you click on it, or the lion catching the prey.

They eat the prey.

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What are your thoughts on that? Is that something we can exercise while we're fasting or we absolutely shouldn't be exercising

while we're fasting? I wish I could give you a definitive, this is how it is and here's the research to back it up.

And I 100% stand by that.

But of course...

As you know and your very health literate listeners will know that the devil's in the detail and it's nuanced.

And the answer is prolonged overnight fasting can be super, super helpful and healthy for some women and not so much for others.

So let me try to help your listeners decide which camp they stand in.

Do you think cortisol is to blame or are there other factors that contribute to that belly wave?

What we don't know, we can't improve, you know?

And I'm a strong believer in tracking when you're young and healthy, because then you have a baseline.

'Cause then if you get to post-menopause and the wheels have started to fall off a little bit, you can go back and say, "Well, five years ago my cholesterol, my LDL and triglycerides were down here.

And now, although they're not in the really dangerous, they've jumped up 30%." Well, then, you've got a very clear track and a trend that you wanna get on top of.

So that's why I'm a big fan of getting this done when you're young and healthy and, and keeping those results handy.

And the final one on that heart health is your blood pressure.

And it's so interesting, because a lot of women associate their blood pressure as having low.

So what is your thoughts on that?

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And especially 'cause I know today's episode, we're really drilling down on weight management and boosting our energy, so I'm gonna kind of sh- shape today's conversation with those two things in mind, assuming that that's what your listeners are wanting to achieve.

And I guess when I first started out in the industry when I was 17, it was 29 years ago, I started out in the exercise science space.

I fell in love with exercise.

I saw what it did for my health and for my mental health as well, and f- for others.

But what very quickly became apparent to me was how important nutrition was.

And what I found was once people got into the habit of regular exercise, it's actually not that hard.

And that really comes down to f- for me, for my exercise issues-