How did you get your start in any of this? Because Louisiana is not really a hotspot for vert.

I know it was under sea level in a flood zone.

So me, I would say my family and I, we would travel around the United States in a van.

So by the time I was 48, I mean, 48, by the time I was, sorry, I probably have the IQ of a doorknob during this project.

But by the time I was 16, we went to 48 states.

And so like I had a lot of exposure like around and something that always stuck out to me was the mountains.

And I was never able to climb them because my brother had cerebral palsy and he's my only sibling and he was in a wheelchair and we like never wanted to make him feel bad.

Do you spend any time there throughout this? You said you've gone back a little bit, but do you mostly just not go to your house anymore?

So in New Orleans, did you have brothers and sisters or what did your family life look like there?

So it was a little interesting.

We did van life hybrid style until I was 16.

My brother's in a wheelchair.

My dad would work from home and was the VP of like a frozen food company.

And my mom was a stay at home mom for my brother.

So essentially we would travel all over the United States and like go follow my dad to where he had business.

But