Uh, you, where you put, put it together and do it again, so.

so.I started in hospitality at thirteen, fourteen years old working at a cider mill in a small town in Fenton called Fenton, Michigan.

And, um, I was working many, many hours and...

But I loved it.

I loved the community of hospitality, and I feel like through different parts of my life, I worked in restaurants, I worked in law school at the Department of Justice, and at night I worked at Calico Jack's in Midtown.

So I really loved, um, my time in hospitality, and I really-- when I decided to go be a lawyer in New York at a very young age.

I started, uh, at Latham & Watkins when I was, you know, in my early twenties and l- became a real estate lawyer.

Yeah.