I know that'll be a topic that we'll unpack a little bit, but give us a little bit of your background.

Sounds good.

So I'm calling from Bend, Oregon.

It's up in central Oregon.

So more mountainy, kind of like Colorado versus the rainy Portland that people often think of.

Moved here 10 years ago.

So way pre-pandemic and been able to work remotely from here, which has been awesome.

But they may not really understand like the perspective of the biz dev professional and what was your kind of first foray into biz dev like, and, and you know, what, what, what do you think people should know about, about that function?