Do you have any advice for emerging leaders who may be stepping into a newly created position and defining expectations as they go?

So you're very right.

There was no defined playbook on how to do this as two people.

So we use the somewhat common expression of building the plane while flying it, which is pretty pretty apt given what we've been through the last 18 months.

In terms of advice, I think finding your support system was really important to both of us, both our individual support systems and those within the AFP and AFP Canada Foundation board ecosystems.

We had an amazing outgoing chair who we turned to for a lot of advice, who even though He was not doing this the same way we were.

He had a ton of really, really pertinent guidance for us about how to manage the role, him having managed it as a one person.

is why emerging leaders have that imposter syndrome they feel like they haven't spent enough time and they have to kind of prove they deserve to be in rooms and so I really love the way that you guys have structured the partnership part of being a successful leader is understanding when to lean on your team how have you both navigated knowing when to be the one to step up on a particular initiative versus taking a step back and trusting your co-chair to take the lead