Where do you begin?

I start by getting a person to talk about how they're feeling.

And I often give a template, Catherine, so it sounds like the first thing I want them to say is I want them to say how they're feeling about something.

So if I can use the idea of perhaps your partner is on their phone all the time, for example, and you are struggling to feel like they're connected with you at all.

And so you might say, I feel...

I feel hurt and I feel lonely when I see you on your phone.

And so instead of, you never listen, you're always on your phone, you don't care about me, what ideally I try to bring the client back to is, well, let's just start with, how does it make you feel? Because the moment you start using attacking words, which usually start with you, which The moment you start attacking, the other person is going to naturally become defensive.

Now where do we go?

I

actually think that homeschooling is one of the best decisions we've made for our family.

There were, well, I have five.

My oldest is 25.

He was in public school until ninth grade.

And my next oldest is now 19, but she was in public school until second grade.

She dealt with a lot of bullying, but I also felt like I didn't realize until after we started homeschooling full-time that my oldest was a different person at school than he was at home and so we really had a hard shift in our family life direction when we started homeschooling and it was a little bumpy at first but ultimately I really think and my big kids agree that Um, that shift was one of the best decisions we've made for our family because it allowed us to connect on a different level, but it also allowed us, allowed me to tailor their education a bit more than the opportunities they had at public school.

Oh, my gosh.