And then also when you were growing up at home and let's say in your first, well, your parents' experience talked about at all? Or was the experience of running away and escaping from the genocide in Cambodia to a new land, was that ever talked about? Or was it just kind of a secret and kind of the elephant in the room that was just never really talked about? What's your experience with that?

Because it's negative, mum never really talked about it, but out of the family, I'm quite the chatterbox, so I was just out of curiosity wanting to learn a lot about the war.

But when I did probe and hear some of the stories, it quite understands how resilient the Cambodian community is because they're they don't like to cause they're quite, um, Buddhist mentality.

They focus on the present, not so much the past or the future.

It's very much, um, embrace what you have in front of you.

Cause if you get your mind, you can't control your mind on what happens in the past and you dwell on it, you can get quite depressive.

And so mom really never really talked about unless I probed when she did, there were quite really scary stories of like reliving it.

I guess at that point in your life, once you had that partner that you could trust, was it a fairly easy decision of whether or not you wanted to know?

And then also when you were growing up at home and let's say in your first, well, your parents' experience talked about at all? Or was the experience of running away and escaping from the genocide in Cambodia to a new land, was that ever talked about? Or was it just kind of a secret and kind of the elephant in the room that was just never really talked about? What's your experience with that?

Because it's negative, mum never really talked about it, but out of the family, I'm quite the chatterbox, so I was just out of curiosity wanting to learn a lot about the war.

But when I did probe and hear some of the stories, it quite understands how resilient the Cambodian community is because they're they don't like to cause they're quite, um, Buddhist mentality.

They focus on the present, not so much the past or the future.

It's very much, um, embrace what you have in front of you.

Cause if you get your mind, you can't control your mind on what happens in the past and you dwell on it, you can get quite depressive.

And so mom really never really talked about unless I probed when she did, there were quite really scary stories of like reliving it.

I guess at that point in your life, once you had that partner that you could trust, was it a fairly easy decision of whether or not you wanted to know?

And then also when you were growing up at home and let's say in your first, well, your parents' experience talked about at all? Or was the experience of running away and escaping from the genocide in Cambodia to a new land, was that ever talked about? Or was it just kind of a secret and kind of the elephant in the room that was just never really talked about? What's your experience with that?

Because it's negative, mum never really talked about it, but out of the family, I'm quite the chatterbox, so I was just out of curiosity wanting to learn a lot about the war.

But when I did probe and hear some of the stories, it quite understands how resilient the Cambodian community is because they're they don't like to cause they're quite, um, Buddhist mentality.

They focus on the present, not so much the past or the future.

It's very much, um, embrace what you have in front of you.

Cause if you get your mind, you can't control your mind on what happens in the past and you dwell on it, you can get quite depressive.

And so mom really never really talked about unless I probed when she did, there were quite really scary stories of like reliving it.

I guess at that point in your life, once you had that partner that you could trust, was it a fairly easy decision of whether or not you wanted to know?