White males with a certain amount of money, too, right? Like, it wasn't even set up for poor white people.

No, but that's the thing.

If they get those poor white people to think that they are better than black people, at least they feel like they're a part of something, right? So that's the part of politics that we're missing, that we don't feel like we can be honest enough, especially when we get into those type of positions, right? We don't feel like we could...

Somebody like John James or somebody.

If John James was to come out and say, hey, I want to get reparations for my people.

I want to do X, Y, Z.

We do like he's they're going to laugh at him.

boyfriend that i'll let you do it because i think i don't know that i could do it succinctly