Mm-hmm.

And I remember him being so willing, to his defense, I try not to say too many good things about him 'cause he's got a big ass head.

But, um, in his, he was like, "Let's jump on a phone call." Even this was like, God, four years ago.

And he was talking me through it and he was like, "You have to go to events." He's like, "You have to go to events." And I'm like, "But I don't wanna go and meet people." And he's like, "Well, if you want to," oh my God, who's go- never heard of her.

Um, "If you want to like grow in this space you're gonna have to get out there and you're gonna have to meet people and you're gonna have to like da, da, da, da, da." And so my hairline is receding.

Is that how you spell that?

Mm-hmm.

And, um, it's not really a hot take, but, like, I'm more, I'm more curious how the per- like, how, how it would feel if you were placed last on one of those.