Yes, sure

... you know? Like Cody co-owns a school in Georgia, but there's also plenty of backyards, and there's still, there's very much grassroots, um, training does persist, uh, for better or worse.

Um, so I think it, it results in a couple things.

I think it can make it harder for someone like Hunter, who, who does, um, who takes it very seriously, uh, who, who wants to, to rise up, up out of these ranks, right? For so many of the performers at this level, um, are fully satisfied with performing on s- you know, once a month on Saturday night at the BFW, and that's, it's great.

And I think, I think that's, um, commendable.

I think there's something to be said about, you know, finding your, um, your p- your catharsis, you know, five miles down the road, and, and just knowing that.

Um, but I could i- I could imagine for the industry as a whole it makes it, um, much harder for, um, the true stan- I mean, a, a person like Hunter and, and some of the others that I met here in Georgia, um, could, could get, very easily get lost in that, or maybe, um, wrongly i-d- wrongly lumped into-

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