Because if you went to your career, when did you kind of start doing the convention circuit? Was that something

you always did? John, 2004.

Gunner's been doing this, you know, for years.

He and Ed Neal and maybe some, you know, one other person, you know, Marilyn, I think, Sally.

They had cornered the market.

I didn't know anything about it.

But Gunner comes over and he said, Alan, they want to do a reunion event.

Did you ever kind of step aside, just follow his career at all after, you know, he started taking off after Texas Chainsaw?