And the second important thing, maybe first in his mind, but Alan, reach- reaching out to your husband and going to him and saying, "I need to do something about this." So I'm curious for the, either one of you, Alan, did, did, did you guys have a talk about this? Because how a family gets into this, and particularly your situation is somewhat unique, right? Did you guys have the opportunity to talk and say, "Hey, should we get involved with this? Do we do this? How do we do this?"

I mean, for me, family's family is my sister.

You know, uh, there's really no other option, you know? For me, if it were my blood sister, I would do the same thing, you know? And, and Tammy said, "Look, you know, we have to do something." And I've never been in a situation like this and where someone is, y- you know, your sibling is in need [laughs] and, and not in a safe environment.

So there was really no...

It was an emergency, you know? So it was, there was really no should we.

It was how.

And that was really how I think Tammy has handled e- everything, you know, in, in life.

We'll have to, we'll have to plan that.

Yes, yes.

Is to win in life and help people define that.

Uh, and that's what we're gonna do.

So we, we have an organization called FIZL, Faith, Integrity, Sacrifice, Leadership, and Legacy, and, uh, this is kind of our launch to, uh, bring those fundamentals and principles to life.

And I'm inviting 1,000 youth and leaders and positive influence to come into a platform with me and be mentored by me to learn the leadership and character development, and this is kind of our, our launch.

So I'm excited for it.

Wow.

Right? And, uh, shout out to just the whole organization, you know, Jim Dolan, everybody, because they've allowed me to explore my real purpose and what, what...

Back to him then.

This is kind of like a two-part question.

The first part is, uh-

A little louder

...

this, this is like a two-part question.

The first part is, uh, after this finals run, what do you think is the biggest mental hurdle for the Knicks going into the next season? And with this finals run, what is your top five greatest Knicks of all time?

Right? I love what you're saying.

So if it's not productive, then it kills you literally.

It not only kills you mentally and emotionally and spiritually, but it kills you physically if you don't.

If you don't make that dignity productive.

Right.

So he made it productive, and he got ahead of it.

He was actually going to go over to South America to get to – he was willing to do whatever.

Let's talk about Fizzle, because this is your values in action, and you

Right here

in Blount County, Alcoa, Tennessee.

That's the roots.

That's the soil that produced everything that you just said.

And my grandfather the same, his sister, his brother.

My grandfather was the same essence, just presented in a different way.

He sat back and he just looked, he spoke, and when he said something, it wasn't like a pin drop, it was like a bomb.

Talk about your wife.

Would you please tell me, as an executive with that organization, what the last couple of weeks have been like and what it was like that night?

I think game four in the garden was probably the highlight.

It was the moment where we were like, you know what, we believed it.

But when you see something like that happen, it's like, oh, yeah, this is real.

This is about to happen.

You know, the Bible says faith without works is dead, right? You can believe something, but you have to make it active.

And when you see it, It's like, oh, man, this is what I've been believing and seeing and saying.

Well, yeah.

Would you please tell me, as an executive with that organization, what the last couple of weeks have been like and what it was like that night?

I think game four in the garden was probably the highlight.

It was the moment where we were like, you know what? We believed it.

But when you see something like that happen, it's like, oh, yeah, this is real.

This is about to happen.

You know, the Bible says faith without works is dead, right? You can believe something, but you have to make it active.

And when you see it, It's like, oh, man, this is what I've been believing and seeing and saying.

Follow and listen on your favorite platform.

I wasn't representing your country in Sydney,

taking home gold.

I think the most fun was, you know, just hanging out with the other athletes.

Yeah.

You know, like you start off...

Well, you start off...

We started off in...

What am I doing?

What was one of your favorite moments in MSG?

By far, my favorite was game six of Eastern Conference finals.

We were up 3-2.

It's always, you know, games one, three, and five on the road are so important, right? You know, so we won game five.

And we knew coming back for game six, like we got it.

You got to get game six, you know, because you don't want to go back to Indiana for game seven.

And my wife was was literally due any day.

That image will always stick in

Was it that conversation that made you realize you can go to the NBA, or had you known prior to that?

No, I think after my sophomore year, I probably had an idea.

Like, I averaged 20 my freshman year, and, you know, we had Shaq, you know, Chris Jackson.

I mean, we had Mash.

We had some really good, you know— Spree, played against Spree a lot in college.

So we had some really good individual players at SEC.

My sophomore year, I was 22.

But continue,

What are you doing? Now that we're here, what

do you do right now? You know, the word I like to use is perspective.

So when I first...

I tried to come back in 2006 and 2007.

In those two years, I didn't know what I wanted to do.

And then when Mike D'Antoni came back, he was like, you know, you should try to come back.

So I started working out.

Like, you know, we... during the playoffs so you have you do this in the morning you do that you have practice you have like film you prepare for the game but you have like your routine set fight the playoffs and as soon as like that last the day was over the next day we're just like yeah it just feels weird it's like what are we doing what are we doing the next week you're trying to figure out like a routine you're like

we'll get back to

that.

We'll get back to that.

Well, for me, it was, you know, I grew up in Louisville.

My father was coaching at Louisville.

He was assistant coach there.

And they had a crazy run.

What was one of your favorite moments in MSG?