I think it's really smart.

Sure.

So just a batch of cookies is made up typically of a number of ingredients that you can't always see when you're eating that delicious cookie.

The same thing is true of our emotions, right? So our emotions, sometimes it just feels like, oh, it's anger, it's sadness, but there are actually all these little pieces that go into m- Bring about that anger or that sadness to make it up.

So as in the case of a batch of cookies, typically when you're making cookies, for those of you who bake, you know that you oftentimes will have a bowl of wet ingredients, a bowl of dry ingredients, and it's things like your flour, your sugar, your maybe sometimes a little salt, and then on the wet side you've got typically like an oil or a milk, an egg, something like that.

And when we mix them together, that gives us that delicious cookie.

And the same is true, I think, of our emotions, that we've got these what I call primary ingredients and secondary ingredients.

Yeah, that's modeling.

When you're doing this work with folks, it's, What is it that you see moves the needle most for people to be willing to tolerate the hard part? Because it's

so hard to say yes to.

Right.

Yeah.

I think it's a really kind of really key lens shift that not everyone is able to make, right? And so I should note that most of the people who I work with initially come to see me for anxiety of some kind.

They have some kind of anxiety related disorder.

So I'm really then getting into the nitty gritty of the rationale for the type of treatment I provide for anxiety, which is called exposure therapy.

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