But is there a darker tone to it now? Has it changed or is it the same story over and over?

I'm still struck with your need to apologise there a few minutes ago for empathising with an eight-year-old boy who was bullied and that that might offend some viewers.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about any viewer who was offended by that.

you know, what is a society unless there is some empathy in it would certainly be my view.

I think you always, look, you mentioned, and I read that piece of the examiner as well the other day, it was very good to give the context of what, rather than, like the initial, everyone's initial reaction on the shock is very understandable.

You then have to stand back and look at, you know, why is it happening and what can be done in a kind of a, a saner, calmer way to try and divert these young lads away from what they're doing.

But it is all magnified.

Poor

Why do you say hyperbole? In what way?

Because I think that it's...

A picture is painted of, you know, Ocon, Mabrone, Ococh, where fact, the whole thing is, you know, gone to hell in a handbag and we're never going to recover.

And it's like there is an element of there has to be an element of at some stage the boy who who who cried wolf with all of this.

And that being, as we said earlier, in the form of the amount of demand that's being put on on the exchequer.

Now, you'd almost feel sorry for the government.

But when you think about it, you don't.

they did it?