What do you notice now that has changed the most or is the most striking to you two?

Well, I mean, I think that I always say they should require sort of anthropologists to come and study this and really look at it from a scientific perspective about sort of how humans have changed and how they deal with this environment.

But yeah, we've seen over a quarter century of that, especially the 20-something, right? But I think the biggest thing would be technology.

There's no doubt about it.

We started before social media, before when you were getting the live feeds on dial-up, right? And so we've really seen how big an influence phones and I mean, it seems obvious, I guess, but you really see it.

Phones, screens, social media, how that has impacted generations and changed so much how they think about what they're doing in the house and think about how it's affecting them on the outside.

how it affects them on the outside.

What do you make of how Big Brother has both reflected those changes, but also has been a part of those changes?

Was there any thought of, like, getting rid of, say, the veto in order to, like, change up the game so there's no more backdooring, that that game structure goes away? Or is that too integral to what Big Brother is now?

You know, one of the things that people have asked about, you know, with the game, what you probably would never change.

And I don't know, maybe you'll disagree with me, but I think it's the head of household and the power shift that happens is crucial to this game.

And with that, I think the next thing in line, the Vita was such a big deal when we put it in play.

It really changed things.

It's hard to get rid of it completely.

Now, it doesn't mean there's room for it to... evolve, certainly as we put in this, you know, now we have this two head of households battle of the block, all of that.

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