Okay, just want to put a mark on that.

So ringtones were one of the things that were just so hot at that point.

And that was like the point of like being excited about a new revenue stream.

And now we know what happened to ringtones.

But different things were emerging at that time.

And like I said, royalties, the industry was being impacted so hard because privacy, piracy was just rampant at that point.

And so the industry had no way of really understand how to relegate and stop all of the piracy that was taking place.

How do you train people or educate people on how it can be a return