Let's just start the conversation." Where do toys and props come into this exploration? How can people start to use them? I think a lot of people get overwhelmed and don't know where to start, even once they get a toy and a prop, right?

Uh, I think y- a lot of people's experience, including my own, is to start- With some kind of basic types of products.

And, and so if I'll kinda define those for you, right? Like wand vibrator, maybe a bullet, a vibrating bullet, which is a very small, non-intimidating size product.

Perhaps a suction toy and/or you can include butt toys in there if you're at that level, a small butt plug.

But I think maybe trying some of those types of products in a very, like inexpensive...

Like maybe you're just gonna try a small bullet and you're gonna bring...

I'm maybe thinking of somebody who's never tried a toy before.

Do one thing they can start doing tonight, but then across the month, three tips that by the end of this month, if you've, if you've used them, you'll have some movement in your, your sexual exploration together.

Okay.

You can use either side, whichever your comfort level is.

But just remember the size of a penis in all of this, right? So while it looks large, it's double-ended, and each side kinda gives you an opportunity to use it as a handle.

Um, I was introduced to this, I was in a retail store, and I was doing, uh, product trainings.

Uh, this was maybe 10, 15 years ago.

And I said to the, the staff there, I was like, "I've tried everything.

Like, what do you have?" And she said, "Have you tried stainless steel?" I was like, "Mm, no, I never really thought about it." She was like, "You're taking one home today." And lo and behold, it's been a part of my, you know, like, top drawer, never gets dusty, use it on a regular basis.

Right.

So can you tell us a little bit about your journey to founding this company? Why the three brands?

So to answer your first question, I had worked in the sexual wellness space.

I started right out of college in administration, like just took a job as a receptionist.

It was sort of a like a happy accident that I ended up in this industry.

And, you know, I started working at one company.

I loved it.

And then I was like, sales is where it's at.

What are your thoughts on sexuality as a spectrum and it evolving over time?

What would be your response to that?

Well, I'm sure she is tired.

You know, that's reality.

Are you helping her be less tired? You know, what can you take off her plate? I feel like at least what I see is like a lot of tit for tat, like you didn't help me, so I don't want to do this for you.

So like spin it the opposite direction.

Let me do this thing for you.

And then maybe you'll want to do this thing with me.

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