Yeah.

Yeah, I agree.

I agree with them.

I, it's such a dream come true.

Like, it, I think just, like, auditions in general, like especially voice auditions, you, [laughs] you read for so many and you hear nothing.

So when I got a callback and then met these guys on, on Zoom and did the callback and then I booked it, I was like, "What is happening? This is crazy." It's my first animation jobs.

Same with Ishmel-

Oh, cool

Tell us a little bit about how that happened.

Yes, energy psychology happened back in 2003.

And it was very interesting how it entered my life.

At that point, I had just integrated functional medicine about a year before.

And then, uh, I was at a luncheon with a psychologist and she mentioned that, um, she had seen a colleague go to a conference and saw someone heal from their phobia within like 10 minutes.

And at the time it just went in one year and out the other, because for a psychiatrist who's training traditionally, it's, it's just not possible for someone to overcome their phobias that quickly.

Um, And then two days later, I met Mark Botnick.

Interesting.

So I kind of wanted to give like a landscape for it, but the floor is yours.

Thank you.

Yeah, I think for many people, they've never heard of a holistic or integrative psychiatrist out there whose main mission has been to focus on helping people naturally heal from mental health issues and who can bring a different perspective than using a prescription medication.

Although I agree with you that prescription medications do have a place, especially in terms of immediate critical crisis interventions.

These medications can be very life-saving.

I also think that it's very difficult once you're on these medications to determine when it's okay to come off of it and how to come off of it because a lot of psychiatrists are not really trained to help people come off medications entirely.

They're taught how to switch from one medication to another, and they're very good at that.

But for those who don't know that or think of it as muscle testing, what's the difference? If you could kind of just give us a snapshot of that if it's all right, because it's it's almost like the passageway into this big land that you're talking about that you've created, but you can't really do it so easily without that passageway.