What are some of the lessons that you've learned along the way?

First of all, number one, I mean, I'm just trying to keep it in the, you know, keeping your audience in mind.

And I think you have to understand, you know, being vertically integrated is essential in this asset class.

So not just property management and asset management, but if you're looking at value add plays, which I assume you are, if you look, you know, I'm not talking about a stabilized, passive, truly passive stabilized investment.

I'm talking about those folks who are trying to get in and look at a value add play.

In that scenario, you need to be vertically integrated.

In addition to the property management and asset management, you should have your dealer arm.

What are some of the big things that you put in place when you take over and purchase a property?

so what do you believe is missing from the traditional wealth equation

yeah there's a common phrase we repeat often is that you have the money you just can't use it and what you're saying is exactly right because we're taught that we should try to put our money in the 401k to get the match we're we're taught to look for the better return in the investment We're taught to just keep putting more in there and just keep working harder.

And all of those things lead us to postponing what we want to have happen to some future date.

And we don't even know what's going to happen at that point.

So what I've seen is that when people realize that they can take control of their financial future and that doesn't mean that they have to become a quote unquote expert in the investment advisory space, right? Because that's what most people would say is like, I know you used to I have a career in corporate America as an IT professional.

We're very smart in that.

I have all these degrees in understanding how all of that works.

So if you can take us through that journey, like how you're advising your clients now, are they really on board for Bitcoin now? Do they feel comfortable investing in Bitcoin? And then what do you see the difference like once, you know, when you started and now, like before and after?

Well, it does really depend on the growing infrastructure of Bitcoin.

And you're exactly right.

In 09 or 2010, You know, I don't even know how you would have bought Bitcoin.

You could have done it, but you would have had to really been a computer guy to know how to buy Bitcoin.

And

there was no thought leadership at that time saying here, hey, hang on to Bitcoin.

This is what Bitcoin is.

the floorboards and stuff.

Yeah.

Ancestral lands and all of that.

But, you know, my father grew up in poverty.

Living in a fifth floor on the fifth floor, essentially of a, you know, I don't want to say rat infested, but yeah, feral cats and all kinds of things living in a in a major city in a third world or emerging country having to start over because of a major war.

you know, and a migration.

And so I ended up in a new city, whereas my grandfather ended up in a new city.

So, you know, as as we wrap up, are there any other parting thoughts that you want to share about this knowledge of generational wealth and what to pass on to your kids, your grandkids to make sure that they're equipped to succeed in the decades to come?

So I wanted to hear from your journey, you know, what have you figured out in this journey? What was the biggest bottleneck for you at any stage, and how did you overcome it?

Well, I mean, there's a...

There was a lot of bottlenecks.

Um, you know, when you, when you...

Anybody who's starting a business knows there's...

It's just ripe with challenges.

You're, you're gonna hit challenges in every which direction.

How long does it take to sell it?

If we close on a piece of land today, we'll be on the market in 45 to 60 days.

Call it two months it takes to get the house out there and set up.

It's a pretty quick turn.

As far as selling it, thankfully, knock on wood, we've been very fortunate.

On average, ours are selling within the first week of listing them on the market.

Once they're under contract, we're looking at 30, 45 days to close it out.

to share with us either a good deal or bad deal experience that fundamentally changed the way you evaluate every deal that comes your way.

Okay.

So let me try to share positive first.

And I can give a specific example, but this applies to many of the deals that we did.

So we use typically infill in my asset class, which is manufactured housing communities.

We use infill as a strategy, meaning we buy homes and place them in our communities, all under a separate arm, I might add, as part of being vertically integrated, a dealer arm.

But we buy homes wholesale and we sell them retail, Vinki.

Okay.

So how do you compare that market and this market? Do you see any similarities or anything different that you see now?

You know, what do they say? History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

That's what we're seeing right now.

We're seeing another long war crisis.

We're seeing stagflation.

The only three times I can remember seeing stagflation is, you know, in the late 70s.

Well, four times.