S- SRF.

SR, SRF could have done it.

I'm thinking of the Australian one.

This is Australia.

We'll see.

Uh, you know, uh, the BBC could have done-- anyone could have done it much better than us with more resources.

What we did was we translated verbatim the interview of Yasmin Porat, which she gave to Kan, the Israeli public broadcaster, so the, uh, Israeli equivalent of SRF.

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Mm.

And Fedpol did an assessment, and, uh, we obtained it in the course of the legal process, that said that I am no threat to the security of Switzerland, that the things I say are protected by free speech, and that an entry ban is unjustified.

That was their original assessment, and then it was on the intervention of Nicoletta Della Valle that this was overturned, and the illegal decision was taken to, uh, retroactively prevent my entry and then to detain me and expel me.

Um, and yes, these court decisions are the result of our initiative.

Uh, I had a lot of support to do that, by the way.

Um, and, uh, although the, the parliamentary investigation, uh, was, uh, done by the control committee, I had nothing to do with that, and they did a very good investigation which revealed important information.

So that was an initiative, and that's to the credit of those, uh, lawmakers who decided to do that.

Uh, but, uh, it, it, it came, it came as a surprise to you too, right? That, that in a place that seems as law-abiding as Switzerland and where political processes seem to take very long, that even here it seems to be possible to get particular interests through directly to certain offices.

She's such a

winner.

But she became one of the main spokespeople for this mass rape narrative on October 7th.

Well, you know, we have been reporting on this at The Electronic Intifada in depth and in detail and showing all our work.

You know, you can...

Everything is there, chapter and verse.

How we... come to the conclusions we come to is all there.

So say what you need to say.

I know I threw just a bunch of things out there just now.

You're exactly right.

If public opinion supported these governments and their complicity with and support for the genocide, then none of this repression would be necessary.

So they have been escalating the repression for years.

It's ramped up significantly during the genocide, and it hasn't worked.

It has not stopped the slide in Israel's popularity and the growing support for Palestine solidarity.

I think it's had the opposite effect of actually further discrediting Western liberal institutions and governments, because it is a litmus test.

So say what you need to say.

They are spending enormous amounts of money.

There are reports in the Israeli media that the Israeli government is greatly multiplying its propaganda budget.

Uh, I think they've just allocated another $740 million for propaganda.

But I think it's going to be very difficult for them to put the shine back on Israel, because the whole world has seen what Israel has done and has been doing for almost three years.

Well, for, for 80 years, really, but, uh, in terms of this genocide, and many more people w- waking up to it, we're talking about since October 7th.

And this hasn't stopped.

Right

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