But would you say that we're seeing a real shift from pilot scale to commercial deployment of CCS? And from an engineering and execution standpoint, what does it take to move the projects to final investment decision and into construction? And also, what regions are leading this transition?

Yeah.

The shift from pilot scale to commercial deployment has been in the works, I would say, in the last few years.

In addition to the different test- testing campaigns at the National Carbon Capture Center here in Alabama, United States, as well as the Mongstad Center in Norway, post-combustion carbon capture technology provider, or as we refer to licensors in some cases, they are seeking to prove operations and their process efficiencies through pilot and demonstration size projects.

Few recent ones that maybe the audience has heard of or, but something that come to mind are the SLB Capturi mobile test unit operations at a pulp and paper mill site in Canada, or last year's ION Clean Energy pilot operations that were initiated there at the Los Medanos Energy Center In Northern California.

Other reputable technology providers like MHI or Shell Technologies have already existing commercial applications in the United States focused on coal plant operations, and they also offer these mobile test units as proof of concept and performance on various advanced CCS project.

So then the clients can get sort of hands-on on these operations and get better confidence, and then that helps add more maturity to, to the project as well.

So is that creating a new pool for carbon capture across the regions that you mentioned? And how does that change the approach to integrating CCS for these fast-moving power projects?