And

then from there we started writing our own music and we were like, we're doing pretty well just on our own.

And it's like, I don't like, we've never felt the need to like include anyone else.

And it's like, yeah, we know lots of other great, like, guitar players and bass players, but it's like, I feel like our dynamic of just the two of us would be so much stronger than just adding a third person just because.

And especially now, like, we're a lot louder than we used to be.

So it's like... why would we add another person when we could just like get like a big amp or two big amps someday I

play instruments and then you kind of organically ended up finding each other living in the same community because you're both performing or like, how did that kind of evolve?

We were both in high school symphonic band together, both in the percussion section.