Right? But for someone that's maybe just been in Toronto or been in their hometown, what can they do?

I think for me, like, I don't wanna get too religious 'cause I'm still pr- practicing, you know? I'm still trying to go to church every Sunday.

But I think faith, bro.

I think part of it is faith that it will turn out.

Like, I go back to, I think if everyone asks themselves the question of, like, think of who you were when you were 15, right, and all the things that, all the risks that you had to take at 15, and think of who you are now.

Is that not progress? Has that not shown you that you've taken risks and you, you're in a way better spot right now than you were when you were 15? So shouldn't that mentality of when you were 15 also be applied to where you are, you are at right now?

Wow.

I feel like an idiot compared to these people.

Take me back to- So

the timelines, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

So 17, 18, I found this guy on Instagram.

His name's Josh LaMonica.

He's like by far the best, in my opinion, in the barbering world.

And the reason why I was very fortunate, I was one of the first people to ever notice this on Instagram and take a decision off social media to go and invest and fly to London.

Before anyone cared about your work, what were you doing differently than everyone else?