Yeah,

it's not very fun.

It's not very fun.

And you really have to know how to work when you do these things.

And you have to know how to deal with tricky situations, tricky customers, all of that.

And you have to learn how to be diplomatic.

I mean, I think that it's those sort of things people forget, like looking at these transferable skills is really valuable.

How did you get the book deal?