[laughs]

[laughs]The ball will stay in the middle and both teams will be, gonna be like, "Oh, attack me please." Bruno Fernandes is gonna be dominating possession.

[laughs] Yeah.

[laughs] Bruno and Koke and Pablo Barrios- Yeah, see- ... are all the ballers there ...

this, this is, this is what having someone like Cuti Romero really steps up the level for Atlético de Madrid, 'cause he's been there.

He's faced these players many, many times.

Yeah, all.

Selection varies by store.

... that we're seeing with Vini.

Absolutely.

He's unable to handle the pressure, and that pressure crumbled him when he started playing for Real Madrid.

Remember, he arrived to Madrid when he was 18.

They had already paid a lo- a, a big sum of money for, for him, and he struggled to make, uh, to, to make himself a starter in the, in the first team of Real Madrid.

He was first playing with the reserves and then he was finally given the, the opportunity.

But he was struggling with finishing.

What do you make of that decision, Herc?

A morder.

[risas] Pues estos son-- Gavi es todo corazón, es mucho mejor futbolista de lo que la gente cree.

Eh, y esto, esto sí que hay que dejarlo bien claro.

Técnicamente, tú no estás en el Barça y tú no, no cumples todo el fútbol base del Barça, y esto te lo digo por experiencia, eh, si no eres bueno, eh, técnicamente.

Yo no lo era y, y me echaron.

Por eso te digo.

[risas] Pero, em, Ga-Gavi es mucho mejor futbolista de lo que la gente cree y, y te aporta energía y te aporta algo diferente.

Mhm.

As a starter, coming off the bench, what has your overall impression been of someone who had interesting ex- I don't wanna say really high expectations, interesting expectations from what we saw from him at River Plate and at such a young age here in La Liga?

We need to trust the process with, uh, Franco Mastantuono.

He's only 18.

He only played 45 official games with River Plate before joining Real Madrid.

They paid a lot of money for him, and we need to, we need to follow the patterns.

Uh, uh, remember, especially, uh, talking about Vinicius Junior, remember Vinicius Junior in his...... three, uh, first seasons with, uh, with Real Madrid, he only scored 15 goals in all competitions in three seasons.

Crazy.

So, how can Hansi counter this if it's not resulting in how we saw this game against Girona?

Yeah, absolutely, and Vinicius Junior really understanding now maybe a kind of new hybrid role now that he has with Real Madrid because we know as you said the competition inside is really tough which includes somebody and very young like Franco Mastantono and what we've seen from him as well this season as a starter coming off the bench What has your overall impression been of someone who had interesting, I don't want to say really high expectations, interesting expectations from what we saw from him at River Plate and at such a young age here in La Liga?

We need to trust the process with Franco Mastantono.

He's only 18.

He only played 45 official games with River Plate before joining Real Madrid.

They paid a lot of money for him.

And we need to follow the patterns.

Remember, especially talking about Vinicius Junior, remember Vinicius Junior in his 30s, three first seasons with Real Madrid, he only scored 15 goals in all competitions in three seasons.

How much have they been missing him, Alex?

I don't think he makes a difference, though.

He's been given so many chances, and there's Altino Huerta now playing in Belgium, younger, performing in a consistent basis when he plays for the three.

Alexis Vega can also play there.

There's too many players.

Piojo Alvarado.

There's too many players that have a similar profile, and El Chucky Lozano peaked in 2018, and since then, it's been kind of a progressive but constant disappointing.

Disappointment.

When we venture an explanation, what comes to mind, Alex?

And if you can't beat him with Messi, when are you going to beat

him? But you're talking about this situation from a corporate MLS perspective, not from the inter-Miami legacy.

We're all going to judge when he retires, when he leaves.

We're all going to judge Leo Messi by his legacy.

And we will compare that legacy with David Beckham's legacy.

And What do you mean in Major League Soccer? In Major League Soccer.

David Beckham won twice.

And having a manager like