Alex, Alex Marlow, help us here.

Well, it's necessary, guys.

And we're actually going to connect a lot of dots here because this actually is a problem in L.A., because there is so much homelessness, and your sex drive doesn't dry up just once you hit the streets.

That isn't how God made us.

And so this is a thing that you witness in one of our businesses that we have, one of our buildings, that where we actually, when we relaunched Breitbart News, with andrew breitbart's vision for this sort of orange and black uh you know halloween colored website that we've had that has been our website for 14 years now when we were there building this website we did it from this very strange building the studio it's almost like a warehouse i think master p was the previous owner the rapper and is it odd space odd part town completely overrun with homelessness, right next to the 405 freeway, close to the 10.

And I remember one night walking out after a long day of work building our new website, and I saw a homeless man masturbating on the sidewalk, lying there, pulling at himself, and he saw me walk towards my car, and he looked up he sized me up he realized i wasn't an authority figure and he just kept going he just kept going he did not stop because he had company and because someone was witnessing his behavior he didn't care he was just checking to see if this gonna cause a problem for me in a legal sense and he kept going so of course there actually is a legitimate reason why someone would think yeah well maybe what we should do is actually just like give them a room That's the issue.

It's not that we have huge mental health issues and people are unhoused and we have a bunch of drug problems and all that stuff in the city.

And it is the inability to enforce boundaries that is one of the great failures of modern civilization such as we have it.

It turns out their idea of the American dream is a mass casualty terrorist event at the white house.

Yeah, and there's so many dots to connect here.

Of course, we were just completely hoaxed on all the Dreamer stuff.

We acted like they were all just gonna be doctors and surgeons.

Well, actually, some of them just end up doing major terror plots, trying to blow up the White House during a sporting event.

Just think about how triggered the anti-Trump crowd was by that UFC event.

Andrew Breitbart talked about this 15 years ago.

Yeah,

All right, Alex, what are you hearing now as the days go by after Spencer Pratt, basically this thing just got ripped out from underneath him?

Yeah, and he didn't really have much of a ground game.

I didn't really see a big evidence of a huge campaign.

But part of that's because of the nature of he's not in politics.

He's new to the political environment.

And the LA GOP and the California GOP are next to worthless.

This has been a reality my entire adult life has dawned on me when I was a college Republican 20 years ago at UC Berkeley.

I don't know whether what they did was illegal or not, but using the creativity of using homeless people to increase her votes to put her

Conceivably,

yes.

Yes, but the good news is that the margin between Pratt and Rahman has me feeling pretty good.

I had it marked as 7% was the most they could cheat, and he's up 8% as of now.

So not impossible, but this would be historic levels of cheating.

And it is cheating.

That's what it is.

She's really

But what is your impression of Cato's report on legal immigration?

Yeah, first of all, Cato is a libertarian economic think tank, and they're very well-funded, very well-capitalized, and they're pointing this out as a warning.

They're very pro-open borders, legal immigration.

They think that America basically is nothing without importing much of the whole third world and first world and second world, however many people we can get in here.

That's their general philosophy, and I think they tell you that to your face.

So this is a warning, and I think that this is essential to, I think, Vice President Vance's narrative and his rise and why we at Breitbart were very interested in the stuff he had to say back when he was a mere author and not even a senator yet.

This is part of the general appeal is understanding that when you're importing a bunch of people from around the world, it doesn't necessarily make life better for Americans and America's government itself.

And I remember us discussing ways that it could be fixed, and what I will admit to having trouble with is, it seems much harder to fix now than it even was two months ago i think there was a lot of skepticism but that number you saw twenty twenty five it was about neutral and then it's really bad just this spring it let's be frank it's the iran conflict has really driven young people in a negative direction and so it's gone in a bad direction how do we arrests that decline, because we don't want the right to be this insane anti-Semite conspiracy theory party, which there are people who would love to take it in that direction.

Am I wrong?

Almost all the hearings are a waste of time.

It's funny, Grant.

The New York Times did a profile of me about seven, eight years ago, and I proudly made sure that they saw me at my desk watching C-SPAN because I always watch C-SPAN because I always found it to be incredible entertainment and just feeling like I really got the pulse of what's going on in Washington.

I never put it on anymore because all these hearings are kind of silly.

They're just performance art so we get more content for Twitter and so that people can show their donors clips.

It's not really where a lot of the great work gets done in Washington or the bad work gets done.

So what's the answer on all of this, Alex? Do you have one? And if you don't, I completely understand.

like there's a lot of white people literally you go walk around california you kind of go where did all the white people go

Where all the whites go.

No, I was just commenting on how it seems like a lot of the people who are part of the golden age of California have kind of left the state for anywhere.

It's either lefties sometimes leave and go to Canada, places like that.

And then righties, we go to Florida, we go to Texas, we go to Arizona, we go to places like that.

Yeah, it's actually very shocking that this is the case, but it also illuminates on a more serious cultural level the fact that the left has for years now, probably a solid decade.

You can maybe trace this to the first time Donald Trump was elected in 2016 to when they had that psychological break.

What do you make of this? What are you hearing in your reporting? And then let's talk about the political ramifications.

What do you think of, I'm just going to say this, of all of it right now?

Yeah, it is a mess.

And it's a shame that over the weekend, this person was shot and killed by ICE.

And it's a mess because I got to be honest, Grant, I've seen all this Zapruder film a million times, slowed down, sped up.

And I don't entirely understand why this guy got shot.

But I do know that he showed up to agitate, armed with multiple magazines.

And that's a good way to get shot if you do that.

And to tie it to all of this stuff, so they want to open it back up, you're going to have to vote for the SAVE Act.

Maybe we can get it loaded.

So here's what's fascinating about this conversation to me, because whenever we have the Democrats cause government shutdown, there's all these downstream effects and they assume Republicans can get blamed for it.

It's really the Democrats that are doing this.

They won't fund a clean CR.

So it's their fault.

So if these are Democrat voters, we should remind all these voters that, hey, we're only here because of the Democrats.

And if you look at this, I was pulling up the numbers before the show today.

uh but it's a real issue a lot of people i mean we're getting also emails from people who are themselves on it who are saying uh you know people who are single parents or they're struggling where they're saying i i need this to get by and is there a way that we can separate genuine need cases versus people who just don't want to work it's a complicated issue and i think the bigger picture we have to ask ourselves first of all is who's going to win a shutdown of snap because it's sort of the microcosm of the bigger debate over the shutdown is is it a democrat thing that causes to happen or is it the republicans fault that this is happening and i think they've both banked that they would win on this but it seems like trump may be ahead i saw the other day i think a major left-wing labor group has been upping its agitation to do a clean extension on spending uh because i do think there is some sense that

Did anything surprise you interviewing Tom Holman in such an intimate setting the way you did?

You know, I can't say that I was surprised, but I'll tell you, I think a lot of the audience will.

And people will see the way I've done the interview if they check it out on the Alex Marlow Show podcast or get your podcast.

One of the interviews I'm most proud of of maybe a thousand interviews I've done in my life.

Grant, I know you've done a lot yourself.

It's one of these things where I wanted to get the border numbers.

I wanted to get a sense of his data, what he thought the real problems were, what the solutions are, how far along in the process we are with the solutions.

So that's why I fight hard.

Okay, so, but Alex, is it possible that Iran was just kind of doing international theater here, check the box, kinda show their domestic strength while not trying to further provoke the American, uh, military might? As I say that, Bahrain has just urged all of its citizens to seek immediate shelter, but Alex Marlow, comment on that.

Yeah, they've taken a very aggressive rhetorical approach, and they're obviously trying to fight back with whatever they can.

But their missile capabilities are drastically weakened and they have almost no ability to quickly generate more, uh, because Israel is, has targeted a lot of their, uh, the, a- a lot of the sites from where they fire the ballistic missiles.

But also, no nation wants to come in on their behalf, because they're in a losing proposition.

Now, what does the end game look like? What does the full loss look like? Is there regime change? Those are all really compelling and mysterious questions at the moment, Charlie.

But overall, we know Iran is losing and no one wants to come in on their behalf.

Who would want to come in contra Donald Trump from the position of strength that he is? Not to mention, Israel has been, uh, very impressive in the war in terms of their ability to take out military targets.

Alex Marlow, if that's true, is this not a very powerful narrative to be able to present to the American people? That, look, there was risk involved, but there ended up being no casualties and no death to American troops.

Alex, you're the editor in chief of Breitbart.com. What is your take on this all-star cabinet meeting? The floor is yours.

Yeah.

Thank you, Charlie.

I always appreciate the kind words and I really do appreciate all the things you're doing on campus.

It is so essential and I hope a lot of people follow in your footsteps because, uh, clearly these young minds are, are very gettable and, uh, I, anything we can do to, uh, de-couple the federal government from our colleges is big and I think you're a big part of that.

Um, I'm glad you started with RFK 'cause he had one of the most interesting presentations.

Uh, I'm a massive fan of his and it's not necessarily because of the exact reasons that you might see on your favorite X account.

Explain what you would like to see happen in that regard with our audience.