Next, let's hear about the Resolve campaign, a unique collaboration that helped mobilize donors to build affordable housing projects in Calgary.

Yeah, Resolve was a really exciting moment I think in Calgary's housing sector and philanthropic sector.

I felt really privileged.

That was kind of the start of my career, which was really exciting to get a chance to play a role in a project like that.

So its origins were in Calgary's 10-year plan to end homelessness, which created Calgary Homeless Foundation.

That was more of an initial effort around systems coordination and making sure that we were getting the right data and understanding of homelessness on the ground and that we were coordinating the funding from an operating perspective so that that was all...

in concert, but there was always this understanding, too, that there was a lack of investment in the capital infrastructure, a lack of investment in the actual physical housing needed.

But there are, I'm wondering about like, what, like, what do you see the role of, you know, the community foundations as it relates to government? Like, you know, are you sort of filling some need that government would be feeling or is it, is it, to completely different needs that people are identifying that they would want?