For

sure.

At the same time, we've had some of our greatest eagles have been guys who happened to have been born in the United States but grew up overseas.

Mike Kirkus, who still holds the record for most points scored in test matches.

Or Chris Wiles, who was as dedicated and patriotic an American rugby player.

Or Vianna Toney, who would ask to sing the national anthem at team meetings when he was born in Tonga.

But I think he looks at that and he says, are you an American? How are you an American? Are you going to sing that national anthem? Are you going to care about the crest on your jersey? Do you care about the country you're in? Are you here? Have you moved here because you want to live here and be here? Just like my grandparents, for that matter.

You're

in order to progress towards 2031? Yeah,

because the big split, the major split is at the top on the men's side.

On the women's side, kind of, and I could mention real quick, on the women's side, NCR has Naira qualified or potential teams in their group.

They should be helping them join Naira and not keeping them and making sure they stay to boost their membership numbers.

That's one thing I would straight out criticize NCR for is that NCAA varsity status is hugely important, help it happen.

But on the men's side, D1AA, okay, fine.

It's just a split along whether you want to play in the spring or you want to play in the fall.

Did American rugby lose its opportunity when things really begun to become more fractionalized at that time? And can we ever get it back?

How has it grown? Are there certain metrics are like, yeah, it's really increased because of whatever.

Youth rugby used to be under 18 rugby.

Now youth rugby is under 12.

That's great.

Grown super not enough.

I mean, I think there should be many more but it has grown on the on the young young level The quality of athletes that are playing high school rugby Has grown and the number of high quality athletes who play has grown.

I Ranked the top 50 High school teams and top 50 high school clubs on the boys side every week starting in January.

So what is the divide really about?