Can you talk to us more about those traits?

Happy to walk through all three of them.

But I think a place I might like to start here is with the words of poet Amanda Gorman.

So she wrote the poem, The Hill We Climb, which she delivered at the inauguration of Biden and Harris.

And the final three lines encapsulate the approach of having a changemaker mindset.

So the final three lines are, for there is always light if we're brave enough to see it, if we're brave enough to be it.

I think that's a really nice way to think about a changemaker mindset.

What do they share with you about having experienced failure?

So I wonder, what are some key takeaways or some key nuggets that you think are crucial for people in this headspace?

One of my favorite things to teach is a concept that I call micro-leadership.

Because again, if we think about leadership, we tend to tell stories of leadership through these heroic, grandiose tales.

We talk about the Mandela's, the Gandhi's, the Eleanor Roosevelt's, people that have led change at a huge global scale.

And of course, there's a role for that type of leadership.

We need that.

But when we put leaders like those up on a pedestal, I think it causes many, if not most of us, to find reasons we're not like that.

And yet we

Right

... is holding onto things too tightly because I care so much because it's so values-driven.

And so I share this as someone who's not an expert in it and someone who actually struggles with this.

But what I've found to be helpful is to think about that larger goal, that larger mission again, and recognize we just can't do things on our own.

But then I guess to kind of bridge things, right, to sort of hold things lightly while letting things in is to think about like what are your non-negotiables? A framework that I use sometimes is being clear on your why, flexible on your how.

And so you as a leader, you might have a thing or two you say we will not compromise on.

We will not compromise on climate efficiency.

Yeah.

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Imagine making a business decision.

Maybe it's hiring, maybe it's budgeting, maybe it's speaking up on a social issue.

Any one of those choices could spark a public backlash that's strain on your team or even shake investor confidence.

That's the reality for leaders today.

Economic shocks, political uncertainty, polarization have created an environment where even routine decisions can carry real risk.

In today's climate, expertise can help you map a strategy.