What's the beginning of this? Like, how did this idea come up?

Yeah, well, I mean, the basis is really, the story getting to the Adapress is important because what that did was let myself and let people in the company really spend some time in labs and actually see how they operate, right? I think a classic challenge for engineers is when you are looking on the outside out of space and you see opportunities where you see improvements, but you're not necessarily in this case at the bench level, actually working with PAs or grossing techs, et cetera, right? Like what you think is a good idea or what you think will fly in terms of a new piece of technology or how it works doesn't necessarily actually match up with people's day to day realities and lives.

Right.

And so the adipress got me into the lab.

And the thing that I noticed was for every large specimen that we were working on for dissecting lymph nodes, there was 20, 50 small specimen jars sitting there.

Right.

And, um, for a path, is a company and the way that we've been supported to date, right, is through investment and kind of part of that side of the company is you have to have a market opportunity that really warrants enough investment where you can raise enough capital to really have a good chance at commercialization and success on the market, right? And the Atopress is a great niche product.

interesting okay now like i said before talking about bringing technology to grossing the future of grossing that kind of thing i'm a pa right that's what i do this is super interesting to me for you looking ahead 10 years What do you think that future is going to look like, incorporating the end-total and anything else that you might invent in the near future?