And what do you think Max understands about Eve then that she doesn't understand about herself yet?

Um, well, I think because of his, like, background with the, the war, he's got the understanding of, uh, of the guilt and, and the not being able to let go of it.

But perhaps he's got a bit more, um, I don't know, perspective because of the fact that he saw a lot more terrible things and he...

I think he does know that it's...

even if it feels like it's your fault, it's, it's, you know, not, but that that doesn't mean that you're not gonna feel bad.

Um, and he's, you know, not trying to jolly her out of her sadness or deny that it's there.

Um, 'cause that's the other thing I think can be massively unhelpful if you're feeling-

Mm-hmm

Maybe I could be good in the roads as well"?

Not initially.

I didn't think I would be able to touch any- anywhere near those times.

If you'd have offered me those times when I was starting this long distance journey, I would've literally ripped your hand off and been like, "Oh my goodness, that's amazing." But already, only 18 months into the, this, this, you know, this new turn that I've taken, I'm already wanting so much more.

Like, I am dissatisfied with those times already and know that in the next few months that they are definitely gonna be coming down and getting shaved off.

So many things that we've still got to implement and, you know, introduce to my training regime, and yeah, there's, there's so much more that I need to do and become to, yeah, to, to...

Before I sign up to that marathon, I definitely wanna shave that half down so much more, and what better way to do at the world championships coming up in September, in Copenhagen.

... with how well the training's going?

[laughs]

[laughs]Right, round three.

Which of these is a real foodstuff? Peacoat, geoduck, tide pod, vanilluxe, and milquetoast.

Peacoat, that's two, two words, peacoat.

Geoduck, that's one word.

Tide pod, two words.

Vanilluxe, which is spelt V-A-N-I-L-L-U-X-E.

[laughs] In these dark days