W- what would you say, Alethea, are some stories that are, that you kind of have come to light when you see these things, when you hear us talk about the pilgrimage pop-ups? You're like, "Oh, that story, that individual, that person, that experience." What are the things that kind of arise in your mind?

mind?Yeah, there's so many, you know? Just I think about even before we get to the, the pop-ups, we had our Chicago pilgrimage, which was a, a four-day pilgrimage in Chicago, and that kinda really s- spurred us on even as we got into these, these one-day pilgrimage pop-ups, which they're, you know, they're just a day locally.

And just it's amazing, I think, even when I look about, look at our, my time in the Bronx, which was a beautiful experience.

It was my first time in the Bronx, and it...

I'm like, "I gotta go back." Like, there's just so much history and richness and culture there.

But I think when you see people walk into a space and they're kinda like, "What is this?" Like, "Yeah, I s- I, I registered, I'm here," but like, "We're gonna learn some things," but like, "What is this going to be?" Like, c- maybe some un- unsureness, you know, reading people's...

We do a, a pre- and a post-assessment reflection, so even reading some of their pre-assessments, like, "I was hope to, I hope to learn this," or, "I, I'm not connected to community," or, "I was unsure." And then just after five, six hours, you read their post-assessments and they're like, "Oh, I've got all these ideas.

Oh.