So I'm wondering if you could explain for us non-academics who maybe aren't so familiar with the term, what that means and why it's relevant when talking about this particular subject.

Yeah, you have to keep in mind that it's kind of political science, so you have to have a concept here.

And then they're talking about the infrastructural power.

It's not new conception, let us be honest here.

But in general, the one who control the infrastructure control the power and control the political institutions here.

So my question is in terms of the Kazakhstan, it's authoritarian state in terms of the political regime.

So my question is to what limits Kazakhstani political institutions are ready to implement the foreign infrastructural institutions, payment institutions? What are the countries of origins of these institutions? Because then you are authoritarian state, you want to control all of the political data, all of the political infrastructure, all of the economic infrastructure, all of the financial infrastructure, so you want to be in charge.

I mean, you seem relatively optimistic, if that's the right word.