Can you say a little bit about what made you think to even begin that way with the question of how people think about ecology and the different words, the grammar, the grammar across the world, the human world?

Actually, I don't know if I had mentioned this before, but I think it was you, Susan.

When we were beginning to discuss the project, I think that you mentioned that if we would go about researching the How the fellows understood ecology.

And instantly, as a native Spanish speaker, I thought about the word ecología.

And usually in Spanish, when we're thinking in broader terms or within activist spheres and in... we use the word ambiente, which would actually translate to environment more accordingly.

But then again, that got me thinking, like, if we ask someone about what do they understand as ecología, as ecology, I don't know if somebody in the street here, if anybody would understand that word in particular.

So that made me think instantaneously about language.

And I'm curious, can you talk a little bit about how that might, how that showed up in the work and how you saw it? as living examples of that.