Yeah.

Okay.

So I, I am a, a advocate and lover of public transit.

I cycle.

I take taxis sometimes, um, and I don't, I don't use Uber.

Um, I think it's, it's a, you know, being consistent but also bringing people along is something that does matter.

And so I tell people, like, "If you don't need to use your car, you shouldn't use your car," because then the people that really need to use their car can get around.

Yeah

But that could change if, if it goes to electronic pricing.

Yeah, I mean, the... right now, um, for example, the...

if y- you're in store, there's a Bluetooth beacon system that detects as a person who's had recent online activity searching for places to buy a birthday cake.

Now it's 10:00 PM, and all other, like, the stores nearby are closed, uh, so you can't get a cake anywhere else.

And so all of a sudden, the labeling system tells you that it's, uh, temporarily, the price is increased, and you pay more for that cake because you need it so badly.

Uh, but, but it's just online shopping right now that we know it, it is happening.

It's going to continue to happen.

What could the city do if the province isn't on board with you on this?

Is that correct?

That's right.

So it takes time to take a look at it in seriousness.

So I moved a motion last month to say, okay, we need a roadmap for implementation.

There's now a municipality in Canada, New Westminster, British Columbia, that has a a policy and they have a bylaw that's already enforced.

New York City's got a bylaw that they're giving themselves a five-year implementation period.

So it takes some time to figure out some elements here.

And so I think that councillors just have to take a stand to say, what's more important here? The health piece or the expenses piece, the cost piece? Because I don't know how you can do one and not the other.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, 70% reduction, um, we're talking about, uh, 21% of fewer people homelessness a- year over year in terms of the counts that we do.

Um, but I think that the key thing here is that 5,000 people, uh, went into permanent housing from shelters and encampments just last year, and that those are the efforts that the city's been building up and, and that this mayor's been, uh, promoting.

It's her number one, um, campaign.

It's her number one, uh, goal.

Um, but yeah, there's a lot more to do because the, the thing that, that even though fewer people, um, are sleeping outside, we're seeing, uh, an increase in the suburbs, in Etobicoke and North York.

And, and the, the base thing here is that, uh, since 2021, uh, the average market rent, um, for, uh, for, uh, like a, a bachelor has gone up to about 1,400.

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