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... and all of it, and, and write on my body and all that sort of stuff, you know what I mean? But it's very much like, it is, it's, it's the ultimate example of, like, learning, um, yeah, like, learning by doing, you know what I mean? And I think that was certainly, um...

And I think it's interesting as well because, um, so he goes on from doing Edge of Tomorrow, Cruise, and you then, then get basically the kind of like the first really embodiment-inflected, I'd say, like, Mission Impossible film, which is, which is Rogue Nation, which is the British one.

It's like a love letter to Britain, and it's a very funny...

It's a very, very funny film in lots of ways as a Brit.

It has a very fantastic ending at Churchill's birthplace, and there's the very English, I think Tom Hollander plays the British prime minister, and he has, like, a, a digital red box that's going to, that blow up, and the password is Kipling.

The password is Kipling, I remember that.

La-Lara Croft and others who, uh, who, uh, now have these, who can do these great, you know, physical warfare, hand-to-hand combat stuff.

It's on its way to oblivion, and, uh, so what, what changes? What happens?

Yeah, I just...

The other point to make there as well is I, I think it's important to, to get into the mindset of, of the Swiss industry at the time, right? I mean, the Swiss watch industry has always been really the winner on price.

That's kind of what, you know...

I- it was the, it was the British and the French watchmakers who were the ones that focused on quality in the, the eighteenth and nineteenth century.

Um, and, you know, I think the, the whole, the whole sort of point around, you know, Switzerland and the watchmakers of the Jura is that they were able to kind of arbitrage.

They were able to provide extreme quality at a much lower, lower price, and that was really, you know, the last real challenge that I would say the Swiss watchmakers had would have been in the 1870s and 1880s, which was from, like, American manufacturers, who were able to basically do the ultimate good enough watches but get them down to the cost of a dollar, and so on and so forth.

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