Um.

Well, that's nice to hear.

I, um, I, I just, uh-- Sorry, I'm gonna, like, keep these half on 'cause I can half hear myself talking.

Um, I, uh, I don't know.

I guess I liked, um, I guess it probably comes from I liked painting a lot when I was a kid, and I guess I wanted to be-- Have you ever heard of Akiane? I think I'm saying her name right.

The painter.

She was this prodigy girl who was, like, featured all over the new- the news, and I think she was on Oprah.

Yeah.