Is there anything else that you have experienced from now being an athlete in your late 50s? Like, how, how has some of your training approach changed? How has some of your cross-training, how sh- sh- like just generally, how have you started approaching training differently?

differently?Yeah.

First and foremost, I finally have come to the realization that I am not 30 and 40 years old anymore.

So [chuckles] I can't-- I can do the same things that I used to do, but I can't do it as much and as often.

Uh, that was, that's a pretty big realiz- it's, it's kind of like duh, of course, but you know, when, when you're, when you're on that train and it's chugging along and things are good, it's good.

But then eventually the train comes off its tracks and, you know, as, as an aging athlete, since our last conversation on the podcast six years ago, you know, I did my first and maybe only 100-mile race, and it-- that was just so hard.

It was so hard on the body and mind.

How do you balance running and strength training without over-training?