So these machines, these coin-operated machines, where were they? I mean, where did they appear?

The coin-operated machine had two massive phases.

The first one was in the 30s, and they appeared in department stores.

They would appear in ocean liners.

And then within a year or two from 1935 to about 1937-1938, You would have found them at the end of piers.

You would have found them at railway stations, anywhere where people congregated.

And the idea was really to get people to stick in their sixpences and record a disc.

Can you talk a little bit, Alan, about how you came across this? You know, what was your route into it in the first place? I mean, you're an oral historian, but I mean, how did you develop this passion for it?