Mm-hmm.

Uh, so I d- I didn't follow through with that after the first year.

Uh, but, but what started me in wood carving is when I was 18 and a, you know, about to come to university, I was driving pea viners.

Um, and for the first year it was like 12-hour shifts.

And, and so like was working and, and, and s- sleeping.

But in between time I had a bit of spare time, so I just started whittling away-

Mm-hmm

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