It is perhaps delaying one of the most emotional victories that Democrats will have from Tuesday night.

It will be a delayed victory, but it'll be a monumental victory and a victory that will really warm the hearts of people that have been fighting for voting rights and civil rights for a long time.

That if we thought that we would never see a black president and we were there in 2008, To think that in the year that we were dealing with and continue to deal with the Nolan Wells case, all the way back to Emmett Till, that you're going to elect a black senator to the U.S. Senate while you have probably the most biased and anti-civil rights administration in office is something that You have to wake up and pinch yourself to see if you're dreaming, because it's not only an evolving situation that happened over the course of decades in service.

I thought of Merle Evans.

I was too young to know Medgivers, but I know his widow well and his kids, how they must feel.

And then I think of the Wells family who still don't know what happened and why to their son right there in Mississippi for this to happen.

And particularly with this White House, I think it's something that you could only pray and only think God could have done for us.

What is the sort of degree of it sinking in that Mississippi may not be a political battleground?

I think that you

made a very interesting analysis of how people use or misuse God.

But you made no argument about God himself.

And by attacking the, quote, wicked, unquote, use of God does not at all address the existence of God or nonexistence of God.

We are sitting in a room that, because of lights, we assume that there is electricity in the building.

Electricity can light up a room or burn it down.

It does not mean electricity does not exist because it burns the building down or that it is inherently wicked.

behalf?

But a deeper concern about this economy.

Yeah, well, I think that, you know, not only the issue of the economy and affordability and this war, two promises that the president made was that he would not get us into endless wars and he would tackle the issue of affordability.

By getting into this war, he has failed on both.

He's lied to both issues.

And you can have all the issues in the world and the momentum that we have as well, but they have terrible candidates.

They have really flawed candidates in South Carolina, in Texas, in Ohio.

I don't even suggest Senator Marshall being caught flatfoot.

of fawning press coverage, this is the Times article, disparaging clips about his perceived enemies and flattering photos of AI slop, that he's losing it in a sense.

What's your sense of enthusiasm among Democrats and turnout, those who are actually going out early already, but those who are actually making those plans to vote on Tuesday?

I really see an enthusiasm around the country that if it maintains, I think we're going to see some surprises on this coming Tuesday.

I went and did Atlanta and Nashville, Tennessee and Detroit all in one weekend this past weekend.

And did a show.

And I did my show.

I did.

And I watched your show.

He's not that superhero immediately, right? that we think of that fully formed champion when we first think of Muhammad.

Sharp.

Let me tell you something.

This is a historic figure because all that followed that became, you know, James Brown was like a father to me.

What he did for soul, this man did with hip hop.

Never got the credit he should have.

People should read this book to even understand what they don't understand about what's going on now.

What's on your list,

Rev? The price of gas, oil, all of that is going up so high that airlines are cutting back on flights, but not reducing the price.

I mean, it's not to minimize it, as I mentioned, but you got a thing in Virginia, you got Omar over here, but it doesn't look like they have it together to swing a whole election with these tactics and you have an economic revolt against that.

You have an economic revolt against it, but you also have the, they have run the risk now of creating martyrs that will hurt them even more.

To indict someone on marijuana When it is now legal and you go back, you first said it was going to be election fraud and other allegations.

Now you come back with this kind of makes people in Virginia and around the country say, wait a minute, this does not make sense.

And then the Omar situation.

Doesn't make sense.

I mean, I'm seeing throughout my whole life as a civil rights activist and leader of an organization, people set up, people had to go and defend themselves, including me.

And yet at this juncture, it would appear that someone inside DOJ thinks there's enough smoke to at least investigate.

I think that you

made a very interesting analysis of how people use or misuse God.

but you made no argument about God himself.

And by attacking the, quote, wicked, unquote, use of God does not at all address the existence of God or nonexistence of God.

We are sitting in a room that, because of lights, we assume that there is electricity in the building.

Electricity can light up a room or burn it down.

It does not mean electricity does not exist because it burns the building down or that it is inherently wicked.

on my behalf

Are you going to have black voters coming out of the churches in Texas and vote for James Tallarico?

overwhelmingly, I think black voters will turn out because they are anti-Trump more than they are pro-democratic party.

Now, there are some candidates that have made themselves the exception, like Keisha Lance Bottoms in Georgia.

But the two you named, I think, has had challenges, but they're doing better.

But I would urge them to do more.

I think that clearly El-Saheed in Michigan had the problem of black support.

They mostly went against his opponent in the primary.

It's corruption, corruption, corruption.

see.

Yeah.

And I think this is why we're going to see possibly very possibly Texas, because I've been down there twice to Houston and I'm on my way to North Carolina.

People are really suffering.

while he's running around talking about these diversions and playing games.

And we see one accusation after another with Paxton tried to do La Tallarica, only I think increases turnout and increases outrage.

But you can't tell people.

What are you hearing? Are voters from the churches in Wayne County, are they going to come out and vote for the Democrat

And as you look at how this has evolved, what the No Kings movement has become, where are the similarities, the differences that you see? And do you think voters are really making the connections between the energy you feel in the crowd and the responsibility, the actual steps they need to take after the fact?

Yes, I think that clearly if you study history, that there's always the galvanizing, then the organizing, and then you get the vote out that makes real change.

So there's no redoing that the 63 March on Washington led to Freedom Summer in 64, which led to the election that rejected Barry Goldwater.

And I wasn't 10 years old and I knew that.

I saw the same thing in the 90s when we saw Reverend Jackson had the Rainbow Coalition.

And this looks like a Rainbow Coalition march today that I said when I spoke a few minutes ago.

And that led to us after years of George Bush.

Rev, why is this president targeting Ilhan Omar specifically?

So let's talk about the Deep South first and the importance of the churches in those three races.

Very important.

I, I've been, in the last nine days, through Texas, uh, Houston, uh, Florida, Ohio, and, and, and in Chicago, which is not the South.

But in every one of them, for example, last Sunday in, uh, f- in, uh, Tallahassee, Florida-

Right

... uh, that are in these key states, and we're gonna be dealing with the issues.

I think what people, uh, have not talked about, uh, which they're gonna need a large turnout of Black voters, is how the ...

even now the Federal Reserve just came out with Blacks are nine times less likely to own homes.

It just might not be a pro-America agenda.

I think that it's clear it seems to not be a pro-American agenda.

And I'm beginning to wonder if it's even a pro-Republican Party agenda.

I think that we're at a point where we have to start saying this president is so narcissistic that he doesn't care if they lose and say, see, if I'm not on the ballot, they don't win.

I really don't think he cares because what he's doing.

I mean, anyone would know better than to do that if you were trying to help your party win.

And particularly now where you're going to side with Putin and against what you had agreed to on certain situations.

But this is different.

[laughs]

"I'm Mr. Trump.

I'm the guy on TV." And didn't realize when he was talking about affordability, people are really trying to make it from day to day.

This is real.

When he was talking about he was gonna preserve certain things in this country, this is real.

He has gone against everything that he ran for, and people have the right to say, "I was not voting for you as a personality.

I was voting for me, my children, my grandchildren."

[laughing]

[laughs]

"I'm Mr. Trump.

I'm the guy on TV." And didn't realize when he was talking about affordability, people are really trying to make it from day to day.

This is real.

When he was talking about he was gonna preserve certain things in this country, this is real.

He has gone against everything that he ran for, and people have the right to say, "I was not voting for you as a personality.

I was voting for me, my children, my grandchildren."

[cheering]

[laughs]

"I'm Mr. Trump.

I'm the guy on TV," and didn't realize when he was talking about affordability, people are really trying to make it from day to day.

This is real.

When he was talking about he was gonna preserve certain things in this country, this is real.

He has gone against everything that he ran for, and people have the right to say, "I was not voting for you as a personality.

I was voting for me, my children, my grandchildren."

[laughs]

[laughs]

And they are not believing it.

They know they're lying.

Trump really believes that stuff.

Trump really believes that he's the savior of mankind and the savior of the Republican Party, and if they sink, it's only because he wasn't on the ballot, and, and that he is the best president.

"I'm gonna build arcs.

I'm gonna build the biggest, uh, Trump library." He believes that.

Mm-hmm.

And more than anything, that is what this election's gonna be about.

That is exactly what this election is gonna be about.

I, I've been on two...

I've been in several stations the last seven days.

People are concerned about their basic living expenses, gas going up, a- and, and groceries going up, and on and on and on.

And I think that what Ossoff did was address that.

I think that the other issues that are being raised don't help the Republicans, both in Michigan and in Georgia, 'cause they are aligned with the one who's responsible for this.

Mm

The breaking news in the last hour-

The 11th Hour with Ali Velshi, weeknights at 11:00 PM Eastern on MS Now, and find more on the MS Now app.

Yeah.

James Brown told me you never take a day off 'cause they will always say you're yesterday's news.

So I s-

Uh, turnout among African Americans, pretty good?

I think clearly around the country, turnout was, was great.

I think no matter what happens tonight, there certainly is gonna be a realignment in the Democratic Party because labor and African Americans can clearly say that we came through in many places in unprecedented numbers when clearly, uh, uh, Gore and others came back to the issue that, uh, are deeply of concern to us late in the campaign.

So even if he wins tonight, the whole, uh, in my judgment, new Democrat, uh, phenomenon that Bill Clinton introduced may die, uh, in this election tonight or at least be up for debate.

Yet at the same time-

uh... what he thinks Al Gore should have done differently because, uh, I would've thought that Al Gore ran the kind of campaign that Reverend Sharpton would like.

Well, I, I don't, I don't, I don't think that Al Gore really took, uh, uh, George Bush on in a lot of issues in a very aggressive and dr- and, and, and way, a way that would really play to his base.

I think in many ways when he started to, uh, uh, fight, he kind of backed...

Hmm

... was born in Kenya.

Suppose if he said, "I don't want, uh, any of the news outlets that run what Trump is saying to be allowed in the Oval Office while I'm president or at a press conference." It would've been an outrage, or if Biden had done something.

So all you have to do is say to the right-wingers that are supporting him, uh, in this, and noticeably some right-wing networks are not following him on this-

Mm-hmm.

But all of this kind of, uh, autocratic kinds of behavior is not appealing even to his base, because people are saying, "This does not smack of what this country's supposed to stand for." And as you said, he is in the White House temporarily, four years, eight years if, if, uh, if you're reelected, and as he was reelected with a term in between.

You're not the landlord.

They didn't change the deed, Mr. Trump, and put your name on the deed.

How does a Republican that is running in any of these close races defend a president that is blatantly giving all kind of, of, of, of welcoming and, and, and comrade, uh, behavior-

behavior-To, uh, p- Mr. Xi of, of China, who is a autocrat, d- a totalitarian, while he's banning press.

The optics is what I'm saying couldn't be worse on the international level, and you've got that now on a domestic level, coupled with the fact that diesel and gas oils and all is going on.

So the, the, the image of the country internationally and the reality of the country internally couldn't be worse if I was somebody on Trump's ticket, which is why they may be using taxpayer's money to try to do commercials for Trump.

Uh, it would be laughable, uh, if it weren't such a serious issue.

It's a very serious issue.

To, one, say things that just are patently untrue and file it into court.

To, for a judge to have to say, "There is nothing there as to what you said," and then to find out the other White House call i- is something that is the absolute...

And even though right now these polls suggest that the voters are leaning Democrat again, that doesn't mean that's gonna be a given, not just for this cycle, but certainly for '28, '30, '32, and beyond.

No, I, I absolutely think that is right.

I think that the fact is that the Democrats took a lot of communities for granted, and certainly the Hispanic community, and saw it as a monolith, uh, Daniel.

I think that one of the things with me dealing for years with politics around the country and in New York, there was a difference between Puerto Ricans and people that came from, uh, another part of the, uh, Latino world.

And uh, uh, I think that a lot of the Dominicans and Puerto Ricans are different.

Uh, but what has united a lot of that community f- and according to your survey, is affordability.

Whether you came from Ecuador or from Honduras, you wanna know can you afford to pay the rent and, and, and, uh, put food on the table.

And Reverend Sharpton, he spent yesterday afternoon with New York City Mayor Mamdani, and the two, you know, despite differing, uh, political views on just about everything, continue to largely get along.

Um, but yes, you, Rev, have as much in common, uh, with many Republican candidates, uh, as anyone else who's not deciding this is worth your time or interest to go to this convention right now.

I think that clearly there is a real statement with 45, uh, elected Republicans not going to the convention.

You must remember this is a man that these people would've jumped over oceans to be next to.

And this is how he also thinks Uh, aside from the politics for a moment, think of the, uh, way he is taking this personal.

"You mean people don't wanna be with me?" This ultimate narcissist is now being rejected by 45 members of his party publicly, that's given nonsensical excuses, and if anybody believes they're nonsensical, it's Donald Trump.

Mm-hmm.

"I'm going to the political convention." And for, I mean, to think, imag- to, to, to realize how outrageous this is, imagine if, uh, Barack Obama was supporting someone like Paxton and had his attorney general at the convention when you have a man with Paxton's legal baggage that is being shared tonight.

What, what is, uh, uh, Attorney General Blanche gonna do when Paxton gets up there that has any number of documented, uh, uh, uh, c- bangs against him and b- uh, and, and charges against him from law enforcement under Republicans? You have to remember a lot that was done to Paxton was done by Republicans in the state of Texas.

thing.

Just stop.

I'm not even going to try to win.

Correct.

In fact, my big candidate in Texas, I'm going to talk about how he can't even dress right.

I'm not trying to sell these guys.

My strategy is to stop people from voting, which makes people vote.

And maybe that's the good we can take out of this saga.

We've seen victories for Republicans that kind of tilt the map in their favor, this time going in the favor of Democrats in these two places, at least.

It goes in the favor of Democrats, but it also goes in the favor of the districts that were already there.

It's not like the courts are giving something to the Democrats.

In Missouri, you have an iconic figure there who has represented that district for many years.

So you're looking at them really saying, States run elections, and we want to keep the districts that have been outlined by the states and that the voters have historically did.

So rather than paint this as progress, I think that it is more accurately to say that we have seen the state courts stand up to the regress that the federal courts, under the direction of President Trump, and his cohorts has tried to do and really tried to manipulate the Supreme Court decision with the Kalis decision, try to restructure voting rights in a real backlash strategy of we're just going to redraw districts that neutralize certain elements of our society, whether it's based on party or race.

Someone that you worked very closely with, I know, on a number of causes.

Gloria was an absolute icon.