So first, tell me why it was 30s.

Famines and plagues and medical issues.

And of course, you know, the conflicts of the time and under the colonial rule, all of those kind of things.

But the fact is, even in, say, my grandfather's lifetime, we've seen lifespans go from their 20s or 30s to their 70s, right? So already it's almost like you've gained immortality, right? If you're from that generation.

So I don't know for sure whether we will gain immortality, meaning it's different from immortality means you can still get hit by a bus and die, but you won't die of natural causes.

I don't know if that'll happen, but There is two things that I do know.

One is there's a lot of research going on on anti-senescence, anti-aging, which exactly claims to bring about those immortal beings.

So talking about AI skills, if you have to give me three AI skills every human being should have, what are those?

So tell us, what was your intention when you wrote the book? What was your intention?

Look, honestly, I mean, all of us know this, especially futurists, but we're at an unprecedented time in human history, right? Never in our entire history as a species has there been a rival intelligence, unless you count other hominids like the Neanderthals and you know what we did to them.

That's not a good story.

Exactly.

We have never faced a moment like this where you're actually on a daily basis, are we still the smartest? Are we still the smartest? You have to keep a check on that pulse.

I think we see literally the cusp of where things are going to go.

And that's just AI, because then you have, you know, people talking about longevity, escape velocity right around the corner, a mere decade or so away.

Particularly, what do you think it's going to be like to live with AI in that period of time?