But you, you know, what I love is the fact that, you know, she was reticent about it to begin with.

Yes, she was indeed.

But again, she never wanted to do something to be a gimmick or to do something for sake's sake.

But that phrase, you know, we will meet again, you know, who could not be moved by that? And I think also looking at, again, the images of the Queen attending Prince Philip's funeral and she's sitting there in isolation, in black, with a black mask.

You know, that sort of solo lone figure in mourning with no one able to comfort her because they, like everyone else, kept to the rules of only having 15 people at a funeral.

You know, who could not be moved by

was the Queen just instinctively very clever at knowing the right moment?

She was, and also, to prove how genuine she was, she didn't need to have the cameras around to do that.

Is this a viable tactic for William, do we think?

Well, it's a really good point, Liam.

So, of course, I think that breakdown originally started with the Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, who didn't want her husband to become king when Edward VIII abdicated.

It wasn't a role that he was born into.

He was quite a shy man.

He had the stammer.

She didn't want him to have that role.

Good

Yeah.

And also, it's a huge distraction from all the good work that they're doing.

I know they're on holiday at the moment, but of course, you know, royal life goes on.

The Queen is still doing her red boxes every day.

She's, sort of matters of state are still ongoing.

Mm.

So for her to go, she, she wouldn't have made it here, but for her to go across the pond to New York and sort of had that bit of sprinkle of, of stardust, I think she was absolutely, you know, accepted with, with open arms at that time.

Mm-hmm.

You know, focused, carrying on with what they, they're great at, um, and not being dragged into the, the chaos surrounding Harry and his visit, which is a real shame.

You know, I know ...

You know, I genuinely know that Harry feels really strongly about the Invictus Games.

It was, you know, it was his baby, his founder.

You know, he's ex-military himself.

Um, I know the veterans respect it, but what the veterans won't like is the chaos that's surrounding this visit now-

Can you tell me based on what you witnessed or based on what you were involved in how much effort went into building the Prince Harry brand that people fell in love with? Or, and it's okay to say, "I think that that's genuinely him," but I will tell you that my, my audience believes that the palace broke their back to make him such a charming, likable character.

So this is probably familiar territory for you, isn't

it? I love it.

It's a real highlight.

It was certainly a highlight for her.

And you can just remember those iconic images of her, especially when she had one of her horses that won, you know, that big beaming smile.

So she absolutely adored Ascot every day.

What are you wearing, Elsa? So I'm

wearing a Phase 8 dress that I bought last year, but it's its first outing.

Um, but presumably if the Lord Chamberlain was given these the, you know, knew that these emails exist, would the late Queen, would Prince Charles, would Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor have been told that these emails exist?

Well, Lord Chamberlain is very much sort of a, um, an honorary role.

Um, he has a staff of one, um, and it was during COVID.

So 30,000 emails coming to him.

I mean, he doesn't even have an email account.

Um, so I don't quite know how that would've worked.

Um, but what I would say is, is the Palace have consistently said they will fully cooperate with the ongoing police investigation, and I'm sure, you know, they will be true to their word in saying that.

Have they, have they always been like this, or do you think things have changed since they left the royal family? Do you think this has always been the way that they, they act or that they run their businesses?

Can you start off telling us about your top highlight from your time there?

Oh, my golly.

There were so many.

I was so fortunate and privileged to do that role.

I remember on one occasion, it was the state visit by the President of the United States and Mrs. Obama, and normally on one of those, uh, uh, occasions, there is a formal lunch for the traveling party and for the household.

So a lunch probably for about 30 people, which the Queen hosts, and you have a pre-lunch reception, champagne reception.

And I was standing there chatting to somebody in the household, and out of the corner of my eye, I saw the Queen coming towards us with President Obama.

Um, can you tell us a bit about what's involved in managing that sort of news cycle, that news operation when there's a big family event within the royal family or a big, big moment, a milestone like that?

What woman,

I ask you, does not like putting nice clothes on and feeling good about themselves and having your makeup done and your hair done.

She may have been monarch, but she was also a woman.

So yes, she loved clothes.

She had an amazing dresser, Angela Kelly.

who started off as a housemaid and then became her personal assistant and dresser.

I worked very closely with Angela.

What was she like as a boss? She was

What's going on? Is this state visit gonna go ahead?

Well, of course, as you know, the state visit actually hasn't been confirmed by Buckingham Palace yet.

So they've still got some wriggle room, uh, if they want to get out of it.

Uh, every state visit is on advice of government.

So I think what they're looking for at the moment is how the relationship between the UK government and President Trump will, will pan out, how the, the crisis in the Middle East with the ongoing, um, conflict with Iran will pan out.

So I think they've still got time to make an actually the last final decision about whether they want this visit to go ahead or not.

But of course, it will be hugely high profile if it does.

But what happens ahead of a state visit? How does the, how do the, how does the king, or the queen in your case, how do they prepare for this?