That, that's how you've felt, you've, you've been played?

Absolutely.

You know, Gary, at the time, I met with two attorney generals, because the first one I met with, um, resigned after a week.

So then I, I was introduced to her replacement.

All of the discussions, uh, you know, two years of meetings back and forth, um, all around the electronic monitoring, but also the VLRC recommendations, and of course, I wanted to have discussions with her on, uh, other issues.

For example, which obviously we won't cover today, but loopholes in the Crimes Mental Impairment Act, because we were beh- before the courts for so long because of that act, a review of the sentencing act for, for the crime of murder.

Those were things she, she didn't really wanna discuss.

Mm.

Is there anything you want to add to what I, I, I just read out?

Earlier you said that I was a little bit reluctant to just do an interview, because telling Celeste's story really does put a toll on me.

But you're right that there are messages I need to get out there.

I'm very angry.

It's been five and a half years.

This is not gonna subside for me.

It can't.

Can you tell me about your thoughts and efforts in, in that regards?