So, Adrian, what was the moment you realized this shame filled corner of the law needed a total rebrand and you'd be the one to do it?

Well, thank you, Zane.

Thank you first for having me on your show.

I really appreciate this.

I love the opportunity to tell the world about what I do and how I got here.

So yes, I am a bankruptcy attorney.

And I woke up one day and realized that there was an entire community of humans out there that I was starting to see through my little window of TikTok and Instagram and social media.

So do you only do TikTok or do you do other socials, too?

If you want to break those down, that'd be great.

Yeah.

Let me break them down briefly for you so that your audience understands the reason why Chapter 7 is such a coveted bankruptcy to file is because you can do exactly what I said.

You get to file a Chapter 7 bankruptcy with your local bankruptcy court.

And if you meet all of the parameters, you will actually get to come out of bankruptcy a couple of months later with all of your credit cards, medical bills, personal loans are discharged or wiped away.

It's called general unsecured non-priority debt.

And that's really a big category that represents everything that's basically not really, really important debt.

Can you talk about what actually happens in debt settlement and debt consolidation in comparison to the bankruptcy and why bankruptcy might actually be the better choice?

Of course.

And I was just, I was just on the phone with one of our preeminent divorce attorneys in our, in our area last, a couple of days ago, talking about mutual client just like this.

Fortunately, um, in my small community, I know a lot...

I, I've been practicing for 30 years, so I know most of the players, most of the, the divorce attorneys in my general area know me.

And so, you know, we have a little protocol.

But one of the things that I, I think is really important too is, you know, a therapist or a counselor, honestly.

I mean, y- I, I'm sure that you would probably agree on this.

Mm-hmm.